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robbieboy
03-01-2006, 03:42 PM
Hi

I just got my results back from my naturopath.

My reactive test result were

Buckwheet +1
Cheese +1
Cherry +1
Cranberry +1
Egg +1
Milk (cows) +2
Wheat +1
Yeast Bakers +3
Yeast Brewers +3

All the usual suspects associated with P & Pa came back non reactive. I am totally lost as I was hoping that there would be a correlation with my results so that I can better dial in my diet.

I just got off the phone with my Natropath and he doesn't seem to see that there is a problem other than to avoid the above.

Just wandering if anyone has had allergy tests and has had similar un-explainable results.

Confused.

Thanks

oakrai42
03-01-2006, 06:09 PM
I'm confused... everything you listed is a usual suspect.... dairy, wheat, nightshades (cherry & cranberry I'm pretty sure are nightshades).

I haven't had an allergy test yet... what's the "+" number mean?

-Steve

robbieboy
03-01-2006, 07:17 PM
Steve,

The plus is based on a scale of 1 to 4 (increasing levels of antibodies).

The ususal suspect which I mean are nightshades (tomato, egg plant, white potato, pepper). All sugars, Acids/organes/strawberry, all shellfish.

oakrai42
03-01-2006, 09:00 PM
Gotcha...

I'd think that things like sugars could easily be a trigger when at the wrong level for each individual, even though it technically wouldn't be considered and allergy per say. This can go for the other things that didn't show up as well, especially if you know they affect your P.

For instance, cold weather. I know I'm not allergic to it (duh :) ), but it dries my skin out. Cool weather is fine, but cold weather has that affect. I know I can eat fruits and even candy at certain amounts, but if I over do it, then I flare. I'm not allergic to sugars, but at high levels my system handles them differently.

I've found that the only way to properly adjust your diet is to do the elimination diet. It takes forever, but it's the only sure way to know. It's taken me years to figure out what affects me and what I can get away with (no too much).... and the worst part... because of other triggers (ie stress) my diet testing can be thrown off. Definitely doing much better though, that's for sure. Lots and lots of patience :)

-Steve

robbieboy
03-02-2006, 10:17 AM
Thanks Steve.

I think I can relate. Sugar is OK for me, but when I go overboard then get myself into trouble.

I love driking OJ but when I was doing it 3-4 times a day, then that became problematic for my P.

I think the key thing is MODERATION. I am fortunate since I have few allergies.

MikeCa
03-02-2006, 10:18 AM
Robbieboy, what kind of allergy test had you done? Was it blood test?
Steve, elimination diet may be the best way but I find it frustrating as there are way tooooooo many variables in this study. Sometimes I itch after eating certain food and sometimes not.
I wish there was simple test available to tell us what to watch for. I never had blood allergy test done is the past, but I am visiting allergy specialist next week and I would like to arrange for one.
With that one can narrow things down and use principles of elimination diet to narrow things down.
As far as sugar goes I am not allergic to it but if I eat it in larger quantities I would break up. The same apply to honey and maple syrup, although Pagano suggest that honey and maple syrup is ok.
Suggar, stress, coffeine and pork are my biggest triggers.

robbieboy
03-02-2006, 10:29 AM
MikeCa

I had the blood analysis done about two weeks ago and got the results yesterday.

I had the same approach as you but I am going to caution in you in that you most likely will not get the results that you are looking for.

What I mean by this, is that when I eat peanuts, I have the need to scratch. It did not show up in the test. Egg plant is another culprit but then again did not turn up showing positive.

I think re the testing, they know that it is not accurate and in fact provide money back. It cost me $300 and I am still somewhat confused.

Dulane
03-02-2006, 10:30 AM
I did not test positive for many of the foods that I know cause me trouble.

But I still know they cause me trouble. Last March I had been on the diet and trying to be very strict at the time. One day I ate a few pastries and the next day I had silvery scale all over my newly 'pink' skin.

Yet I do not test positive for wheat or sugar. If I continue eating it, I will have aches in my neck that will work into my shoulders. I don't need to test this any more...I can see it and feel it in just a couple days.

If you are dealing with Leaky Gut, any food that doesn't digest well is an irritant. And many of us have not had the results we expected when taking the food allergy test. My natureopath wouldn't give me a test until I'd been on the diet for about 6 months. She said it was deceptive, and too easy. She wanted me on the elimination diet long enough for me to see changes.

She's a smart lady. But she made me work for my improvement.
:cool:

PS - Cranberry and cherry are not nightshades.

soloist
03-02-2006, 02:06 PM
I have never been tested for allergies, my choice. But I know that I am allergic to cat dander, as are my son and cousin. So I don't own a cat. I also know that perfume and smog starts me sniffling. And if I have been eating dairy, I have a bigger reaction to these known allergens. Also, bread gives me heartburn, and potatoes give me sore joints.
My psoriasis started after taking a beta-blocker drug for heart problems. There are other drugs implicated in causing psoriasis, such as lithium. The drug company said my psoriasis was caused by the additive substances in the drug, but I am not sure if this over-the-phone advice was simply to discount their drug as the culprit in case I was thinking of a lawsuit. (I wasn't). Even so, I think that with the gazillions of additives in our food, and the pesticides and herbicides in the depleted soil, even on fresh produce, any or all of them could potentially cause trouble with me. Food is plentiful here, but only with the liberal use of preservatives, genetic manipulation, etc. Shelf life is more important than our life.
I go by my own theory that psoriasis is an "allergic" reaction to something or many things. I know that sugar and alcohol are big triggers for me. I eat a pretty good diet, try to buy organically grown produce, or grow my own. I don't eat the average high fat diet with lots of processed stuff, and I think that helps keep my psoriasis in check.

MikeCa
03-03-2006, 07:27 AM
It appears that food allergy test it not what many people have been hoping. It does not mean that if we are not allergic to certain substances that they are good for our body. As we all know so well psoriasis is much more complex condition which food allegies are only one component.
I try to follow modified Pagano's diet and have seen over the years great improvement. But I also found that fresh fruits (anything sweet for that matter) is not good for my P. Fresh and cooked veggies with exception of nightshades are fine for me. Step by step we will figure this out!

hiker
03-03-2006, 08:51 AM
It appears that food allergy test it not what many people have been hoping. It does not mean that if we are not allergic to certain substances that they are good for our body. As we all know so well psoriasis is much more complex condition which food allegies are only one component.
I try to follow modified Pagano's diet and have seen over the years great improvement. But I also found that fresh fruits (anything sweet for that matter) is not good for my P. Fresh and cooked veggies with exception of nightshades are fine for me. Step by step we will figure this out!

Years ago, when I was first diagnosed with p, the Dr. explained that it is the body's reaction to stress.

I asked, so by cutting down on stress my P will go away?

She said that it wasn't that simple. Stress is easy to start, hard to eliminate. And it wasn't necessarily stress like job-related. It's whatever the body perceives as stress. This can be: food allergies, weight (too much, or too little, or simply change), love life, chemical (such as food additives). Anything that **your** body sees as stressful to handle.

Probably why one thing works for some, not for others; and why we spend so much time trying to find "our" cure.

mike