"P" vs "cancer"

[yang81696]

it is interesting that alot of cancer treatments actually also helps "P" patients... which makes it seems like "P' is just a form of cancer... where the cells have gone 'bonkers'...

so if we consume healthy food that combats cancer, would it help?
I wonder???

[MadCat]

so if we consume healthy food that combats cancer, would it help? I wonder???


For the last couple of months I have been hearing about and researching the Raw Food lifestyle.

I have Ulcerative Colitis (as well as P - which is currently clear) and I am currently having the worse UC flare-up I have ever had and am almost at the end of my tether.

I am not taking steroids, as I have experienced them before, and never want to experience them or their horrible side effects ever again. I am taking vitamins, which are certainly helping, but the severity of this flare-up is like none other I have ever experienced.

Anyway I have met a number of people in the last few months who absolutely swear by the benefits of a Raw Food lifestyle.

Not only as a healthy lifestyle choice but also as a total cure for many deliberating illnesses, diseases and conditions (i.e.) Ulcerative Colitis, Crohn's Disease, Cancers, Diabetics etc............so why not a total cure for P too??

I must admit, I can see it being a healthy lifestyle (although hard to stick to) but I'll wait until my UC is totally cured, before totally believing that it is really possible just through diet alone.

In May 2007, I met some Raw Foodies and they were the healthiest and happiest bunch of people I have ever seen. They literally glowed with health; they had extremely flawless and glowing complexions, shiny hair and bright eyes.

They were bouncing around the room full of energy (while I slumped in the corner trying to stay awake) and the ones I spoke to said that since they started on the Raw Food lifestyle, they never got colds or flu.

Although I have been researching the Raw Food lifestyle, I have doubted my ability to stick to it, as I absolutely love chicken and dairy (and the Raw Food lifestyle is strictly vegan based)

However, in recent days my UC flare-up has become so bad, that I believe it is almost on the verge of being life threatening, so I may just have to commit 100% to a Raw Food lifestyle, literally to save my life.

So I'll let you know.......

[NYGuy11]

MadCat, that's such a sad story you have. I hope you can stick with the Raw Food Diet and that it works for you.

If you go on it, let us know how it helps with your P.

[PaulKensington]

Hey Madcat,

Not sure on Ulcerative Colitis I'm afraid.

You might want to try stopping the dairy and instead having raw cabbage, okra, chicory, onions, asparagus, almonds (used sparingly), slippery elm, burdock and apples / apple cider vinegar.

Hope you get well soon,

Paul

[alli]

I have Ulcerative Colitis (as well as P - which is currently clear) and I am currently having the worse UC flare-up I have ever had and am almost at the end of my tether.

However, in recent days my UC flare-up has become so bad, that I believe it is almost on the verge of being life threatening, so I may just have to commit 100% to a Raw Food lifestyle, literally to save my life.




I really hope you're gotten in to see a doctor about this present bout with this condition!!

[MadCat]

I really hope you're gotten in to see a doctor about this present bout with this condition!!


Hi Alli

No, I have not seen the doctor. Now I know you will think I am crazy for not seeing a doctor but you really have to walk a mile in my shoes to understand why I am so reluctant to do this.

He will say / do one of the following:

1) He will put me back on a combination of seven or eight different drugs, which made me so sick last time that I actually briefly (in a moment of madness and desperation) contemplated suicide.

The drugs made me sicker than the UC did. I am never putting myself, my family, my friends and work colleagues through that “steroid rage” again. The combination of drugs made me so aggressively angry with an out-of-control inner rage, that I wanted to kill people.

The drugs made me feel terrible. In my waking hours I was constantly battling the constant anger, aggression, depression, crazy thoughts. I put on a massive amount of weight (30KGS in less than three months) which has now made me a target for diabetics and I also grew a moustache!

Even after I stopped the drugs, it took months for them to get completely out of my system. So no, I refuse to go to that place of drug madness ever again.

2) He may also suggest I have my bowel surgically removed and I will have to wear one of those “attractive” stoma pouches for the rest of my life. At 37 years old, I feel I am too young to do this.

So again, please walk a mile in my shoes before you think I am crazy for avoiding the doctor.

I just can't put myself in that situation ever again.

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[MadCat]

MadCat, that's such a sad story you have.


Thanks NYGuy11 but I don't view actually it as sad. Occasionally I get a bit melancholy about it but I am generally a happy and positive person, so I try not to let it get me down or constantly dwell on it to much. I can’t leave the house at the moment (as always have to be in sprinting distance of the toilet) but on a positive note, I get to relax and lounge around all day in my PJ’s, catching up on all those books I want to read and letters I want to write etc...

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[MadCat]

I am just reading a book by Ross Horne and Toni Bobbin called “Anti-Cancer, Anti-Heart Attack” cookbook about the Gerson raw food diet and the amazing results they had with people in their 80’s.

When they started the diet they could only walk a hundred metres (and often had to be carried home due to exhaustion) and after six months of being on a strict raw food diet, they were walking 6 – 10 kilometres per day.

One woman had congestive heart failure, hypertension, angina and arthritis when she started the diet. After four years of being on the diet, she won gold medals in running events at the age of 86.

Anyway I have had to order the books from the USA, so once they arrive I will start on the diet. I will let you know how I get on. My husband has also agreed to also do the diet to support me (as it would almost impossible for me to do it, if he was cooking fish & chips at home) and he has eczema, so it will be interesting to see if it helps his skin.

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[Dulane]

MadCat...

Good luck to you. I wish that slippery elm was easier to get 'down under'. Do they sell powdered marshmallow root? That is another gentle mucus lining supportive herb.

You are lucky that your husband is so proactive. He sounds like a gem.

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[mauikiwi]

aloha ..mad cat ...May i suggest you look up this website ...Dr Dahlman ...he offers alot of suggestions for UC , Crohnes , and other intestinal inflammation conditions . His dietary suggestions helped my Psoriasis in a huge way . You have to give up the Dairy , Gluten , Legumes , all of which are hard on your digestive system . I think raw food would also be to harsh for you at present . It sounds difficult , but as you see your body respond to these changes everything becomes much easier .....
Dont give up hope .......aloha ..mauikiwi

[MadCat]

Just a quick update.....

I have been on the raw diet at a 99.9% ratio for the past six days (only had one cooked meal and that was a plain homemade vegetable soup anyway).

It is very hard BUT I can already see and feel improvements, as my UC started to improve within the first two days. I also have had more energy and have been able to start exercising again.

Went through a detox period on days one to three where my P (and my husbands eczema) flared up briefly but both are subsiding and clearing now.

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[MadCat]

Thank you for the additional information mauikiwi.

It was interesting to see the link between UC and antibiotics – never seen that particular idea before (but certainly makes sense in my case, as took loads of antibiotic medicines when I was younger)

Pity I have to give up everything I love now. This vegan raw food diet is hard but from the improvements so far, the effort will be worth it.

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[MadCat]

[QUOTE=Dulane] I wish that slippery elm was easier to get 'down under'. QUOTE]


Slippery Elm is easy to get "down under", but for me not so easy to "get down"!!

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[MadCat]

Going back to the original post by yang81696.

From my ongoing learning and research into the vegan raw food lifestyle, yes I now believe you can "cure" P (or at least remain totally clear for life) by diet alone (no drugs, no medications and no vitamin pills).

I found these American websites where the writers say you can overcome P with this raw vegan lifestyle:

http://www.naturesrawenergy.com/#raw

http://www.superbeingdiet.com/

And I know many people on here have had success with different diets for P......will report back in a few weeks time.

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[MadCat]

Just a quick update:

I have been following this raw vegan lifestyle for just over a month now.

The first two weeks were extremely hard, there is no denying that.

However, the more recipes I am finding, the easier it is getting.

The Raw vegan lifestyle (including plenty of Green Smoothies) is the VERY BEST thing I have ever done for myself healthwise.

I am certainly in it for the long-haul (hopefully for the rest of my life)

In just 30 odd days, I have had more positive health benefits than I could possibly describe here. The main three major ones for me are:

1) I am getting my Ulcerative Colitis under control without the intervention of drugs or surgery.

2) I am losing weight (not interested in fitting into skinny jeans, want to lose weight because I have been borderline diabetic since putting on the weight from the steroid use)

3) I now have a massive amount of energy, up at 5.30am for long walks before work (where as before I had trouble dragging myself out of bed)

Although I was 99.99% clear of P when I started, I still had some patches deep inside my ear cannels, but that has now cleared.

I use to have a massive patch of P on my right arm and it took up most of my wrist and lower arm. I used a Hemp Body Butter and took Salmon Oil tablets and the patch completely cleared up. However, as many of you have probably experienced yourselves, I was left with a faded patch of white/pale skin where the P patch had been.

In the last 30 days, I have noticed that that white/pale patch has completely disappeared. My skin tone pigment has returned to normal. You can’t even see where the white/pale patch was.

This can only be to the Green Smoothies I am drinking, it is too much of a coincidence to be anything else, since the patch only started to disappear once I started drinking the Green Smoothies.

My husband’s eczema has cleared up too.

Yahoo! Yipee!

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[Jillian1507]

Green Smoothies? Sounds yummy (I am a big veggie eater!).....what's the recipe or do you just blend a bunch of veggies together?

Glad to hear that this has been helping you - it's amazing what happens to us when we actually are good to our bodies.

[DottieD]

Re: Are psoriasis and cancer related?
I recently went through treatment for breast cancer, and I have had psoriasis since I was 10. However, when I discussed this with the oncologist (who was trained at Stanford) he said that people with psoriasis are slightly LESS likely to have cancer than the general population. (Wouldn't you know I would be the exception!)
As you probably know, psoriasis is manifested by skin cells multiplying too rapidly and maturing too quickly. Cancer cells also multiply more rapidly than regular cells. But the particulars of the process are completely different in the two diseases.
Methotrexate works by generally slowing down the multiplication of all cells in the body. So it is helpful for cancer as well as psoriasis. But drugs like Enbrel and Humira target inflammatory cytokines of the immune system, so they are more specific for psoriasis, rheumatoid arthritis, etc.
The only connection that I know of is this: several recent scientific studies (you can check these on PubMed at the National Library of Medicine (www.nlm.nih.gov) have indicated that inflammation can promote the development of a number of types of cancer. Inflammation also increases the severity of psoriasis. (I ususally have a flare-up when I get a cold or the flu, and once when I got a flu shot.)
The inflammatory cytokines that are thought to be the cause of psoriasis are mainly made in our bodies from a material called arachidonic acid. Arachidonic acid is found in some of the foods we eat: particularly fatty meat, liver, and eggs. It is not found in foods that come from plants, and there is very little in most fish, shellfish, or milk products. Therefore, it is thought that if we eat less meat and eggs, and more vegetables and fruits, we will have lower levels of inflammation in our bodies, in addition to getting lots of healthy vitamins and minerals and anti-oxidants. This way of eating helps to quiet down our psoriasis, and also helps our bodies defend against the development of cancers. But the two are completely different diseases.
Hope this helps. DottieD

[MadCat]

But the two are completely different diseases.
DottieD


Oh yes, I know that.

Sorry most of my postings got a bit off track here. Last month I was so sick with UC, I thought I was going to die. Which lead to me answering the original poster in the first place.

I was most interested in the following question by the original poster.........

“so if we consume healthy food that combats cancer, would it help?”

A lot of people on this site have gone into remission with P through diet alone.

Which got me thinking, I wonder if most other diseases (including UC) can be cured by diet alone.

[MadCat]

Green Smoothies? Sounds yummy (I am a big veggie eater!).....what's the recipe or do you just blend a bunch of veggies together? Glad to hear that this has been helping you - it's amazing what happens to us when we actually are good to our bodies.

Hi Jillian1507

GS is basically blended Green Leafy Vegetables, Fruit and Water.

I have just done a big Green Smoothie answer to grannyfranny under the Green Smoothie topic - loads of recipes there.

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