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GitOverIt
09-14-2007, 07:45 AM
Vitamin D boosts calcium absorption, treats psoriasis, prevents osteoporosis and breast cancer: interview with Dr. Michael Holick

The following is part one of an eight part interview with Dr. Michael Holick, author of "The UV advantage" and one of the world's most respected authorities on vitamin D and the health benefits of natural sunlight. His work can be found at www.UVadvantage.com. Be sure to print out the vitamin D myths, facts and statistics page summarizing the key points of this interview.
Adams: Today we're speaking with Dr Michael Holick, Thank you for joining us today Dr Holick.

Dr. Holick: Oh, it's my pleasure.

Adams: For those who may not be familiar with your work and your website, can you give a brief introduction of what you cover and how you got into it?

Dr. Holick: Sure, I've been doing research in the vitamin D field for, now, more than 30 years, and I happened to be in the right place at the right time as a graduate student at the University of Wisconsin, and worked with one of the authorities in vitamin D, Dr. Hector DeLuca. As a graduate student my PhD project was actually the isolation and identification of the active form of vitamin D, and my roommate and I, over the next two years, were the first to chemically synthesize it. And what was really neat about that experience was that we actually gave this to patients when I was in medical school -- and patients that had bone diseases associated with kidney failure, that were wheelchair bound, that had severe bone pain started walking again.

That was my first introduction into one of the major benefits of activated vitamin D and the development of it for the treatment of a bone disease.

Adams: Does this mean you and your colleague were the first to synthesize this form of vitamin D?

Dr. Holick: Yes, the active form of vitamin D that's made by the kidney, it's called 125-dihydroxy vitamin D.

Adams: Is this procedure more widely used now, for example to make vitamin D supplements?

Dr. Holick: No, because this active form of vitamin D is available only by prescription. It's used to treat osteoporosis in Europe and Japan. And it's also used to treat bone disease and kidney failure patients, and has a lot of other uses as well.

Adams: So as you were doing the research on this, you were able to immediately observe the health impact of it, right away.

Dr. Holick: Exactly, and what we began to realize was that vitamin D was much more complex than thought. We always knew that vitamin D was made in your skin when you are exposed to sunlight, but it was only in the 1970s that it was finally appreciated that it actually had to go on this circuitous journey, first to your liver to get hydroxylated, kind of activated, modified -- what's called 25-hydroxy vitamin D - it's the major circulating form of vitamin D that doctors should be measuring in your blood to determine your vitamin D status. But that is also inactive, and it has to go to your kidneys, and then in the kidneys it gets modified again, to its active form, which we call 125-dihydroxy vitamin D. And it's this 125-dihydroxy vitamin D that's responsible for telling your intestines to absorb calcium from your diet more efficiently, and to make sure that your blood calcium is normal and that you have healthy bones.

Adams: So if there is a failure of any of these body systems along the chain, that can suppress the circulating active vitamin D then?

Dr. Holick: Exactly, and in fact if you have severe liver disease, for example, you have two problems. One is that you may not be able to modify it, to get the 25-hydroxy vitamin D, and secondly if you have a fat malabsorption problem where you can't absorb dietary fat, since vitamin D is a fat-soluble vitamin, then you can't absorb vitamin D and you become deficient in vitamin D. Then if you have any kind of kidney disease, you need either activated vitamin D or one its analogs in order to be able to maintain healthy bones.

Adams: In the testing then that you mentioned, was this active form being given through injection?

Dr. Holick: You could either take it orally or by injections.

Adams: Interesting. So you mentioned the positive impact on people who had trouble walking, who had osteoporosis, and various bone diseases. What other effects did you observe?

Dr. Holick: We also realized a few years later was that your skin doesn't only make vitamin D, which I think we'll talk about a little bit more in a minute, but it also recognizes activated vitamin D. And what was really, to me, quite amazing, was that in 1985 we realized the possibility that if you take activated vitamin D and put it in skin cells that you culture from humans, it turns out that activated vitamin D was probably one of the most potent inhibitors of skin cell growth. So I reasoned back in 1985 that if that was true, maybe you could take advantage of it by developing it to treat the hyperproliferative skin disorder psoriasis. And indeed it's one of the treatments of choice now worldwide. Both activated vitamin D and its analogs are used worldwide as the first line therapy for treating psoriasis.

And so again it shows you the breadth of activity that vitamin D has. Not only just to regulate calcium metabolism and bone health, but to regulate cell growth. And that's why we started realizing that people who live in higher latitudes and are more prone to vitamin D deficiency and are more prone to developing common cancers and dying of them, such as cancer of the colon, prostate, breast and even ovaries. And we think that that's in part due to the body's inability to make enough activated vitamin D to help regulate cell growth and to keep cell growth in check.

Adams: That would explain the links between breast cancer, prostate cancer, colon cancer and vitamin D deficiency.

Dr. Holick: Exactly. And then the key factor that we found was that, as I mentioned to you originally, we realized that the kidney was the major source of the activation of vitamin D. And the function of that is to make activated vitamin D for bone health. But we now also know that the prostate, breast, colon and many other tissues in the body can also activate vitamin D. And by doing so, we think that it locally produces this 125-dihydroxy vitamin D, which then regulates cell growth. It's a cell growth modulator. And I spell all this out in my book "The UV advantage" at www.UVadvantage.com

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:kr2X6KmLUeYJ:www.newstarget.com/003142.html+calcium+psoriasis&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&ie=UTF-8

Dulane
09-14-2007, 10:57 AM
Another good find, Sally!

Hmmm.

Makes me wonder.

Just how bad are the side effects of Dovonex, and could the D3 oil filled capsules be a benefit topically to us?

:confused:

ouchyk
09-14-2007, 11:19 AM
[B]Adams: Does this mean you and your colleague were the first to synthesize this form of vitamin D?

Dr. Holick: Yes, the active form of vitamin D that's made by the kidney, it's called 125-dihydroxy vitamin D.

Adams: Is this procedure more widely used now, for example to make vitamin D supplements?

Dr. Holick: No, because this active form of vitamin D is available only by prescription. It's used to treat osteoporosis in Europe and Japan. And it's also used to treat bone disease and kidney failure patients, and has a lot of other uses as well.

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Only available by RX? hummmmmmmm......when is this article from date wise?

Karen

GitOverIt
09-14-2007, 12:11 PM
Dr. Holick: Sure, I've been doing research in the vitamin D field for, now, more than 30 years, and I happened to be in the right place at the right time as a graduate student at the University of Wisconsin, and worked with one of the authorities in vitamin D, Dr. Hector DeLuca. As a graduate student my PhD project was actually the isolation and identification of the active form of vitamin D, and my roommate and I, over the next two years, were the first to chemically synthesize it. And what was really neat about that experience was that we actually gave this to patients when I was in medical school -- and patients that had bone diseases associated with kidney failure, that were wheelchair bound, that had severe bone pain started walking again.

That was my first introduction into one of the major benefits of activated vitamin D and the development of it for the treatment of a bone disease.

Adams: Does this mean you and your colleague were the first to synthesize this form of vitamin D?

Dr. Holick: Yes, the active form of vitamin D that's made by the kidney, it's called 125-dihydroxy vitamin D.
Adams: Is this procedure more widely used now, for example to make vitamin D supplements?

Dr. Holick: No, because this active form of vitamin D is available only by prescription. It's used to treat osteoporosis in Europe and Japan. And it's also used to treat bone disease and kidney failure patients, and has a lot of other uses as well.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:cw2cvs226MEJ:www.roymurrell.com/newslettervitD.html+125-dihydroxy+vitamin+D+prescription%3F&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us&ie=UTF-8

http://www.shvoong.com/exact-sciences/467881-vitamin-1/

mcordy77
09-14-2007, 06:37 PM
Prescription vitamin D belongs in the garbage.

This and more on how to REALLY raise your blood levels of D.
http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/search/label/Vitamin%20D2%20belongs%20in%20the%20garbage

ouchyk
09-14-2007, 08:15 PM
Why does it belong in the garbage?

If I am rx'd Vit D it will be in my body if my levels are off enough that is, hopefully they are fine...wonder if we should be tested thru-out the winter?

Karen

mcordy77
09-15-2007, 06:58 AM
Why does it belong in the garbage?

If I am rx'd Vit D it will be in my body if my levels are off enough that is, hopefully they are fine...wonder if we should be tested thru-out the winter?

Karen


This cardiac surgeon tests all his patients for D (25-OH-D). I will quote him in just one instance...but his website lists MANY of the same results. He sees patients all the time on prescription D shots.....

Dr. Davis
"When you check blood levels of vitamin D, as we do in everybody we see, you quickly learn what works and what doesn't.

Vitamin D in multivitamins is very poorly absorbed, if at all. Likewise, about 90% of the D in most calcium preparations is not absorbed. The vast majority of tablet or powder preparations, such as those in calcium tablets, are not absorbed to any significant extent. Take all you want and you remain vit D-deficient with osteoporosis, growing coronary plaque, low HDL, and exposed to risk for prostate and colon cancer.

If you take vitamin D in supplement form, it must--MUST--be in an oil-based capsule. The tablets are simply much too poorly and erratically absorbed to be reliable. There's nothing more frustrating to take, for instance, 4000 units of vitamin D in tablet form, only to have a blood level of 12 ng/ml--severe deficiency. Take the same 4000 unit dose in capsule form and blood level skyrockets to 58 ng/ml. And it's no more expensive.

One other thing: If you want to waste time and money, take the prescription vitamin D prescribed by many doctors. This is vitamin D2, also known as "ergocalciferol". Why use the synthetic vitamin D2 when D3 is the form your body needs? Because the D2 is patent-protectable and profitable to the drug manufacturer, similar to using Premarin (horse estrogens) when human preparations would suffice--or be superior. I saw a woman today taking 50,000 of prescription D2 once per week. Her blood level of 25-OH-vitamin D3? 17 ng/ml--severe deficiency. Don't waste your time with this garbage."

I hope this answers your question.

Mark

bjmacc
09-15-2007, 07:53 AM
Hi mark,

I simply can't believe Dr Davis' all or nothing approach...with all the tests, studies and research done...such as Vieth's 1999 landmark study..there is no mention of reduced absorption with hard tablets. Dr.Vieth suggests you simply have to take it with food. Do you actually think that minuscule amount of soy bean oil in a liter or more of stomach volume has some special effect other then to call for bile? The amount of D3 in a multivitamin (400iu) has proven to have no discernible effect on levels because it is so small of a dose.

No, i think the doctor is both right and wrong..right because you need the oil or fat but wrong in assuming it's due to something other then calling for bile. You just can't take it with a glass of water..you need to take it with a meal.

But going back to the rxing of D...in the past most prescriptions for D were in the form of Vitamin D2 (calciferol) and it is not effective...this is why Dr Davis is against it. D2 is not patented but the process to make it was back in the 1920's and the pharmaceuticals promoted it with prescription dosages (50,000iu) and as Dr.Vieth pointed out is unfortunately still very common in the US.

Dr Vieths study on D2 vs D3 pretty much says it all.

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/84/4/694

Dr Hollick , in the interview, is referring to the the active form of Vitamin D (Calcitriol) which is made usually in the kidneys and is only available by prescription because it is very potent and can cause high calcium levels. We now find this high test form can be made in small amounts by many cells in the body especially if we have adequate levels of D3 via sunlight or supplements. Dr Hollick,Dr De luca and their colleagues may well get the nobel prize for isolating calcitriol and explaining its role.

hope this helps..

bj

mcordy77
09-15-2007, 08:24 AM
well...I have to think we are all "right and wrong" most of the time! :D

I look at it this way...the doctor tests everyone for serum blood levels of D via the 25-OH-D test.

Short of stopping my D intake and getting tested in a couple months, then doing a "trial" myself between tablets and gelcaps....
I'll go by his experience (with all of his patients) that the oil based gelcaps work best to raise D levels, at the same price as D3 tablets.

Besides Bj, you KNOW I have long thought that when barney's REALLY kicked in, was soon after I found the D3 Jarrow gelcaps at a health food store. So please pardon me :) if my personal experience mirrors what Dr. Davis has found through testing his patients. If, as Vieth suggests, that the D in the mulivitamin does not impact D blood levels...I still have to agree with Davis that the tablets are "erratic" in their performance.

my opinion...real life may vary. :)

I think we all know that D2 is pretty worthless, and I believe his "Patent" remark was for the "process" (which IS patented) not the actual "ergocalciferol" itself.

bjmacc
09-15-2007, 09:26 AM
hi mark, i agree...if it works i'm all for it...i just like to know why..and i think its the food or fat needed for bile......since it take 90 days for D levels to level off..it my have been coincidence..i had the results in the same time frame on hard pills.

so, if you don't eat when you take your pills..i agree, take a gelcap.

I think Sally would like this detective story...over on the UK forum ..

Osas creme...

http://www.psoriasis-help.org.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19472.0.html

It's got my curiosity going...:0)

bj

GitOverIt
09-15-2007, 11:37 AM
Ha-ha BJ....beat you to it....I received my 2 bottles last week!

I was reading your thread over there and spotted the OSAS lotion! read it! and ordered it!

When I started clearing with Dr. Heng's treatment and then Psorolin I cleared pretty good.....except for some small spots on the top of my hands, three spots on the nape of my neck and in my ears.....all leftovers that were stubborn! Plus I had run out of Psorolin back in Feb.
I felt even though they were small and not bothersome I did not want them around!!! I know how these buggers can grow and spread....so I ordered the lotion!

It is still early to tell much, but the P on top of my hand is gone....previously they would clear......then appear again if I ate a no-no food....(my own built-in babysitter guage)
this time they seem to be gone for good!
The scalp P is still there but tamer....smaller spots...same with ears!

I have said before ....I take the dry vitamin D 3 but I always take it with an oil pills like omegas....I had read somewhere that it gets absorbed better! ( I started with the oil D 3 til I read it had soy :eek:....so stopped and got the dry!....I didn't take too many)

my Vitamin D3 numbers came back 58 ...my doctor was surprised and happy....she told me it was uncommon....I plan on having it tested again after winter has been around a while maybe Jan or Feb.......