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mdt13
11-09-2007, 05:26 PM
I noticed the other day that my shins are painful to touch. I have no pain when walking, but when I touch them they are tender as if all bruised up. I tried some searches on the web and found a reference to a medical abstract on something called "Avicenna Sign". It sounds really interesting, but I'm not going to pay $60 to get at the details of this paper.

Aim: The status of a new sign for diagnosing rheumatoid arthritis is discussed for the first time in this study. It is defined as marked tenderness on the anterior surface of leg (shin) on pressure of about 4 kg by thumb. The sign has been denoted as ‘Avicenna sign’.

Methods: All cases were selected by convenient sampling from patients who were referred to two rheumatology clinics in Tabriz, Iran. Sample size was calculated as 618 using Cochran's sampling equation.

Diagnosis of rheumatoid arthritis was made according to American Rheumatism Association criteria. Two physicians were asked to examine the sign on all of the selected patients separately. One of them (a general physician) was not informed about methodology and objectives of the study, whereas a rheumatologist was well informed and he collected data using a written questionnaire.

Test–retest method and discriminant analysis were used to test reliability and validity of the sign for diagnosing rheumatoid arthritis. The effects of intervening variables including osteoporosis and consumption of some medications were controlled employing Chi-square test.

Results: When the general physician examined patients with Avicenna sign to diagnose rheumatoid arthritis, sensitivity and specificity of the sign were reported as 77.1% and 98.4%, respectively. The corresponding values were 81.3% and 98.4%, respectively, when the rheumatologist examined the patients.

Conclusions: This study suggested considerable diagnostic value of the sign for rheumatoid arthritis. Consumption of acetaminophen or NSAIDs had no effect on the status of Avicenna sign while taking gluccocorticoids made it unreliable for diagnostic purposes.


Has anyone else heard of this or have more info? Try touching your shins and let me know if you also feel what I feel.

nyoki
11-09-2007, 07:09 PM
I hadn't noticed that on my shins but have had a similar problem on my fingertips where there is no joint (on the top of the finger above the nail).

Ihurt
11-10-2007, 05:31 AM
I noticed the other day that my shins are painful to touch. I have no pain when walking, but when I touch them they are tender as if all bruised up. I tried some searches on the web and found a reference to a medical abstract on something called "Avicenna Sign". It sounds really interesting, but I'm not going to pay $60 to get at the details of this paper.



Has anyone else heard of this or have more info? Try touching your shins and let me know if you also feel what I feel.


From Time to time I will get shooting pains in my shins. It comes and go's. Doesn't last very long either, I attribute it to the PA.

banditkat
11-10-2007, 10:43 AM
my shins have always hurt. If hubby grabs at my leg just above my ankle (for a foot massage) I scream. It hurts to the touch. One time my OBGYN grabbed at my leg to scoot me down on the table and I yelped like a puppy. I always wondered why they hurt to the touch but since I have been diagnosed with PA my wondering is over.

Tilldee
11-10-2007, 10:33 PM
I have lots of pain on the top of my ankles. Just a dull aching pain that never seems to go away.