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smoochisback
12-08-2003, 05:31 AM
Hello!
I am a newbie to this board but not a newbie to psoriasis. I was wondering if anyone here has tried to make changes to their diet to help combat psoriasis? I am going to school for nursing and thought I would take advantage of the database through my school to get some information. I am not currently seeing a doc for my psoriasis but considering the fact my mother suffers from it as well, I know all to well what it is. I have been researching some alternative remides( cant spell) and found an article of intrest. I thought I would share some things I found interesting and see if anyone here has heard of them or tried them and had success. Thank you. Here are selected parts to the article I read. ( I skiped the part explaining what psoriasis is...duh...we know)

Psoriasis occurs when a genetic defect in skin cells causes these cells
to divide more rapidly. This doesn't mean you can't do something to slow
down skin cell division. Often you can, because in addition to a genetic
predisposition, your diet and lifestyle affect psoriasis. Sluggish liver
function and toxins in the bowel are contributing factors

You can reduce bowel toxins by eating a diet high in fiber. Some toxins
become attached to these plant fibers and can be carried out of your body
by them. So be sure to eat fresh fruits and vegetables at least two or
three times every day.

A tincture or capsules of Sarsaparilla root (Smilex sarsaparilla) may
help control or reduce your psoriasis. People used to drink Sarsaparilla
tea every spring as a blood-purifying tonic because it contains substances
that bind to psoriasis-causing toxins, eliminating them. A study in the
New England Journal of Medicine (No. 227, 1942) found Sarsaparilla to be
effective in 80 percent of patients with chronic psoriasis. Eighteen percent
of them were completely cleared up. You may need to take 15-30 drops of
tincture, or 250 mg of the dried root in capsules, three times a day.

Your liver filters and detoxifies your blood, but if you
have too many toxins in your bowels, or if your liver is overworked and
unable to detoxify sufficiently, you'll end up with more toxins in your
bloodstream than you can handle. Reduce these toxins and you'll reduce
your symptoms.

Stop eating junk foods for a few months at least, and drink water with
lemon juice throughout the day for a gentle liver cleansing.

Don't burden your liver any more than necessary. Alcohol increases the
absorption of toxins from your bowels and significantly worsens psoriasis.
If you're serious about improving your skin, you need to eliminate alcohol
completely while you're on this healthy skin program.

There appears to be a direct connection between the fats in meats (arachadonic
acid) and psoriasis. Toxic by-products of arachadonic acid are hundreds
of times higher in skin with psoriasis than in normal skin tissues, creating
inflammation. These by-products are produced when a particular enzyme is
inhibited. Aspirin and NSAIDs (nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory agents) inhibit
this enzyme, so if you have psoriasis, do not take either of these medications.
Greatly reduce dairy and animal products, both high in arachadonic acid

Essential fatty acids (EFAs), such as the omega-3 fats found in fish,
are beneficial. They occupy the same receptor sites as arachadonic acid.
This means that if you eat more fish than meat, your skin will contain
more naturally occurring anti-inflammatory agents. Studies show that when
people with psoriasis added high amounts of fish oils to their diet (10-12
grams), there was significant improvement in their skin. But this translates
into 150 mg of salmon every day, or eight to 10 fish oil capsules.

Instead, eat wild, not farmed, fish frequently. Farmed fish contain fewer
EFAs. Since flax is also high in EFAs, add two tablespoons of flax oil
to your food each day, or take a good quality supplement (such as Women's
Preferred Mixed Fatty Acids) containing both kinds of EFAs. Begin by taking
two or three times the amount suggested on the bottle for several months.

A vegetarian diet low in dairy often reduces psoriasis, most likely because
it eliminates arachadonic acid and contains EFAs from nuts and seeds. When
this diet is also high in carrots and fruits, it boosts your levels of
vitamin A, which helps your skin.

Nutrient deficiencies

Low levels of vitamins and minerals such as vitamins A and D, zinc, and
selenium have been associated with psoriasis, but a number of studies say
that taking them orally doesn't work as well as using them topically. Since
these studies are not conclusive, I think it's a good idea to take a multivitamin/mineral
formula, eat plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables, and spend some time
outdoors daily to get vitamin D from sunlight. If you can find lotions
with antioxidants, use them on the affected areas. They can't hurt, and
they may help your skin clear up.

Contributors to Psoriasis

* Poor digestion and elimination

* Impaired liver function

* Too many animal fats

* Nutrient deficiencies


My psoriasis is on the scalp, only one elbow, my face...eyebrows, nose, ears .. I am 31 and have had it for about 10 years. I never thought about how the things I eat could contribute to the problem. Please tell me what you think.

Smoochisback ( Rachael)
:D

Radbert
12-08-2003, 06:39 AM
Hi Rachael,

Out of the extracts you posted, I have recently found that alcohol is a major factor in my P. I posted the results from cutting back the drinking in this thread..
http://www.psoriasis.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6277

I never expected that I would find a single factor that is the major control/cause for me, but I guess I am very lucky.

chaimFL
12-08-2003, 06:51 AM
Hey Rachel......

Diet comes up very frequently around here....there are 2 approaches in trying to find wether or not diet affects you P. (1) is an all out diet change, which would entail the effort to eat healthier and see if better eating will equal better skin and the other (2) is omitting certain foods or types of foods from your diet to see if something particular might trigger you P.

As you can imagine it is very difficult to pin point a food/P relationship. The omission approach being the harder of the two because it entails omitting dairy from your diet for a month or so, then wheat, then sugar.......and the list can go on and on until you find something that triggers a flare in your P, if you find something at all.

The complete diet change can be beneficial for some peoples P and may be worth a try if for no other reason to be a healthier eater. I, for one, love food and am not exactly the poster boy for a good diet so I choose to rely on the meds I get from my terrific derm.

If you start a particular regimen and see good results please let us know what worked .....perhaps it will work for others.

Here is a link to a very thorough diet "experiment" that may be of interest to you: http://www.psorsite.com/docs/terry.html

GitOverIt
12-08-2003, 07:09 AM
Hi Rachael
Wow....Just what I always thought !!!!!!the arachadonic acid was the culprit trigger for me! I got P when on Atkins diet, eating and living on meats and cheeses.........not using the good sense the Dr. ordered...such as many, many glasses of water, and all the oils he recommended...my fault, not his.
this was one of the best things I've read on the why and how of P. thank you!!!!!!
I took notes so will follow the advice of everything here and see what happens on down the road.
I don't drink that much....... beer mostly, when we're eating out. never have booze in the house.... since the kids were going through teen years :D
at times forced myself to eat meat (not a great meat eater)
need to drink more water, now with lemon...must be to help the acid/alkaline balance......
just started cod liver oil with A and D for winter ...has the efa's in it too....:mad: yuk! bought the Carlson lemon flavored brand cause it has the least amt of mercury.
add also dandelion tea.....:D
again, thanks for the enlightening article parts!!!!

charris1980_23
12-08-2003, 07:17 AM
Don't burden your liver any more than necessary. Alcohol increases the
absorption of toxins from your bowels and significantly worsens psoriasis.
If you're serious about improving your skin, you need to eliminate alcohol
completely while you're on this healthy skin program. No way:rolleyes: :) j/k

sickofit
12-08-2003, 07:58 AM
I am a vegetarian throughout my life (35 years), no animal fat or junk foods, tons of turmeric in my diet naturally, never drank alcohol or smoked cigarettes, eating tons of veggies & fruits everyday, and to top it off none of my family ever had P - but I'm covered with psoriasis 98%. Diet & P connection? Go figure!

Buck5150
12-08-2003, 12:26 PM
I was taking 4000mg of fish oil supps a day, maybe I'll bump it up. Sickofit, I feel for you, Ive got a 60% case and hate life. Stress is a trigger, and for those like us, this affliction is the stress. Like they all say, one good for one isnt for all. Stress, diet, genetics. Cant fix but two. Stress is there, conscious or not. I dont drink or smoke either, but my diet is one of my triggers I'm sure.

GitOverIt
12-08-2003, 01:26 PM
been doing some research on Arachadonic acid (henceforth to be called AA) tired of spelling that sucker:D
and I'm posting several sites you might want to check out....I found them interesting.....by the way sickofit, are you a closet sugar eater?
I have friends that are such strict vegans, but periodically hit the sugar!!! anyway I think that is one of my problems.....SUGAR.....
here are the sites everyone let me know what you think.

looks like research from across the seas.....

http://www.oilofpisces.com/psoriasis.html

this was interesting especially the oregon grape (Mahonia Aquafolium.... sp)



http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,1075303,00.html

more on oregon grape etc.

http://www.hsibaltimore.com/misc/hsi_9912_b.shtml

debber_1
12-08-2003, 04:08 PM
A warm welcome to all out newbies!! You will like it here!

sickofit
12-08-2003, 05:43 PM
GitOverIt, No I don't take much sugar. Just a couple of spoons a day with coffee. I don't like sweets, actually.

EdR
12-09-2003, 02:32 AM
Welcome Rachael,

I'm very glad you were able to find your way here. Thank you for posting that article for our review. I hope you don't mind that I have some comments on different sections of the article:

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One of the statements in the article is way off and I thought you would like to know about it:

Psoriasis occurs when a genetic defect in skin cells causes these cells to divide more rapidly. The statement that psoriasis is caused by "a genetic defect in skin cells" is unsupported and out of date. It's been known for over 20 years that psoriasis is an immune mediated disorder. The rapid division of skin cells is just one of the more visible symptoms and is driven by immune system signaling and over-activity. The first few genes linked to psoriasis have just been discovered, and researchers are trying to determine exactly how they increase the odds of having the disease. However, there is no current evidence that they encode how skin cells are formed or how they divide.

http://www.psoriasis.org/facts/
http://www.psoriasis.org/research/immune/
http://www.psoriasis.org/research/genetics/

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Regarding Sarsparilla, the most thorough academic source of information I could find was at the University of New Hampshire Herbarium web site. It sounds like this plant contains natural plant steroids.

From http://www.unh.edu/herbarium/Poisonous/plantdict.html :

Smilax spp., Cuculmeca, Sarsaparilla (family- Lilaceae)

-A perennial woody climber that grows to 15 feet (5 m) with small green flowers. (Chevallier, 268)

-Used for anemia and to purify the blood. (MUSA)

-It is a saponin glycoside containing useful steroidal sapogenins (type of aglycone) that are yielded after hydrolysis. All saponins form colloidal dispersions in water, foam when shaken with water, and almost always have a bitter, acrid taste. They usually irritate mucous membranes and destroy red blood cells by hemolysis. This plant is considered toxic, especially to cold-blooded animals but is found to be suitable as a cortisone and hormone precursor. Steroids thus developed are useful in helping against arthritis.(Lewis, 19)

-It is anti-inflammatory and cleansing and is thus used to treat rheumatism, rheumatoid arthritis and gout and can also help reduce irritation from skin problems such as eczema, psoriasis and general itchiness. Since it has a testosterogenic action on the body it can be used to increase muscle bulk but has the potential to lead to impotence. Since it also has a progesterogenic action it is beneficial in premenstrual difficulties and debility and depression that often accompany menopause. When the root of this plant was combined with five other herbs in research tests, it was found that 90% of acute cases of syphilis cleared up. Also, research done in China has shown that it holds potential against leptospirosis (a rare disease transmitted to humans from rats). (Chevallier, 268)

-Widely distributed in temperate areas and tropics around the world (Bailey, 1050)

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The liver:

I've seen many claims from alternative sources that toxins overwhleming the liver cause psoriasis, but I've never seen them proven. If anyone has seen such claims substantiated by scientific research, I'd be interested in hearing about it.

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Red meat:

It's true that red meat does contain a relatively high concentration of arachidonic acid. Arachidonic acid is an essential nutrient used by the immune system, but people with psoriasis seem to express too much of it. I've avoided red meat, egg yolk, and cut back on dairy for years. Unfortunately, I've had many a psoriasis flare during that time period.

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Omega-3 fatty acids

Now here is something that has been heavily studied. Omega-3 oils have been reported to help control psoriasis, but as usual with psoriasis, some people don't respond as well as others, or at all. Fish oil also contains high amounts of vitamin A. You need to be careful to monitor the amount of A that you're ingesting - too much can be toxic. As a funny side note: there was one study performed in 2002 in Germany during which researchers fed fish oil derived lipids to psoriasis patients intravenously. Click here to read. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11895157&dopt=Abstract)

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Advice re: vitamins and nutrition:

A healthy diet supplemented by vitamins and exercise sounds reasonable to me.

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Again, welcome to the forums!

Ed

BobO
12-09-2003, 07:30 AM
Hello Ed,

I've stopped peeling eggplants just long enough to say - Beauoooooootiful Job! You are a laser light in the morass of fanciful thinking.

Bobby - "make my nightshades parmigiana" - O

p.s. - And . . . did I say that my arms and legs are clear this month hahaha (really, no kidding!)

chaimFL
12-09-2003, 08:21 AM
Intravenous fish oil derived lipids?? Have to wonder what the control group was on that one........:rolleyes:


Also regarding liver toxins and psoriasis.....
I don't know that I like to phrase "cause psoriasis".......seems like "triggers psoriasis" would be more medically correct, but I'm pretty sure that's what you meant Ed. Of course I gave up on my search for the liver toxin/psoriasis search after finding out that methotrexate is a hepatic toxin itself...so it would be logical to reason that methotrexate should cause flaring not remission. Just a thought.

GitOverIt
12-09-2003, 08:51 AM
I think what everything boils down to is good ol' common sense....and research.
I know for myself, that I research everything before taking it....that is why drugs are not in my realm of use...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/

I 'll take my chances with natural, healthy, researched approaches to a better lifestyle....just can't bring myself to use drugs with such side effects, when there are other means.

If a pregnant woman is told not to take "x" drugs......( anyone know why?) then why should we? toxins are toxins anyway you look at it...................all I'm saying is I, myself, wouldn't....for you who do....fine, I can live with that :D
PASS ME A ROOT BEER :D (or better yet a sarsaparilla);)

smoochisback
12-09-2003, 10:52 AM
Thank you for all the wonderful insight and feedback to my post. After all the years I have had P, I never thought about my overall health as a trigger for some of it. This is my real first attempt reaserching alternatives and information to the triggers that may cause me to itch and hide. I am not , like another said, a postergirl for good health. Thank you for all the feedback and links. Thats what I came here for and I read every one of the replies and plan to do more reseach before taking on the first so called wonder cure all. I am so glad I came to this site. I have felt so all alone with this. My mother who suffers as well, and more than myself, has really been the only one who I have found to understand. She herself is a veggitarian and eats salmon almost every day, yet, diet hasnt helped her any. Thanks again for the warm welcome and support.

Smoochisback ( Rachael):)

coachG
12-09-2003, 10:59 AM
Interesting........very interesting.........(especially the IV fish oil :) )

Thanks all for your input Chaim, Sally, edr, Bob, sickofit, Buck, Radbert and Rachael.

Lots of "food for thought".

Here's to you Rachael.....

http://www.blueautumn.com/blwelcome.jpg

SouthpawGrammer
12-10-2003, 10:11 AM
Welcome

Love Paw xxx